The best thing I never did was get baptized. My relationship with my parents wasn't great, but it was better than it would have been if I was eventually shunned for DF/DA, especially for them when they got old and their Jehovah was still stuck in the privy.
Black Sheep
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I'm getting baptized
by BlackWolf ini know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
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Gorby says goodbye
by Gorbatchov inmy eyes for ttatt opened in 1995 with the generation change and the wt magazine stated "some witness thought that the generation started in 1914".
since 1997, with internet at low speed, i followed h2o hourglass, www.xjw.com and later on www.jehovahs-witness.net.. did a bachelor and post bachelor since then.. now, nearly completed with fading, i feel it's time to go on with my life and do some other things, spending more time with my wife abd children instead of thinking about jw topics in my head.
goal is being a better person and less grumpy at 45.... everything what could be said is already said.
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Black Sheep
Congratulations Gorby. Best wishes to you and your family.
Proost
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Would we exist if Adam and Eve didn't sin?
by truth doubter inmy son asked me 40 years ago.
should we be glad adam sinned?
because if he hadn't, we would not be the person we are.. any opinions?
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Black Sheep
It depends on who your ancestors are.
If you were descended from Australian aboriginals, your ancestors would predate Adam by tens of thousands of years, so why would 'original sin' from another continent and culture apply to you and your Australian ancestors?
They are not the only group with a history that predates the watchtower's version of the creation of humans.
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Start A Butterfly Garden!
by Bonsai intime to take a break from debating religion.
take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?
how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?
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Black Sheep
We have lots of Monarchs here, especially if I take caterpillars inside in spring so that the wasps don't kill them. At this time of year I'm the bad guy and have to eradicate some to ensure the survival of my swan plants for spring.
We have to be careful pruning and take any chrysalises inside to finish off. Hundreds of Monarchs have launched themselves from my finger for their first flight and they often swoop on me in the garden, I assume because they like the colors on my shirts. I have had an old one land on me and die, which I thought was pretty special.
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Since leaving WTTS have you joined a new church or just continue with the new beliefs you have discovered under no religion?
by AmIright inshare your thoughts ?
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Black Sheep
Because I realized I had been raised in a cult, I knew that everything I had been taught by the cult was questionable. Everything. There was no point in cherry picking what I liked out of it's teachings. I had to start from scratch, questioning the validity of the roots of the cult and the book it was based on.
I suggest you do the same.
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jws deny shunning, yet lie to not look bad
by Ghiagirl ini recently decided to take matters into my own hands with my husbands family who have nothing to do with us.
his mom has seen my son twice since he has been born and his dad has never met him.
his family will pop in every few months, on top of that like in my last post ask for for money.
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Black Sheep
Don't tell them anything, even if they really need to know it. Just hammer them with questions until they have no option but to admit to the doctrine/history/statement they want to hide. If they are dishonest, use questions to corner them into having to admit it, then give them a guilt trip for trying to scam you. -
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Did You Get Invited to the Memorial?
by Ding ini'm just wondering if jws keep inviting you back or if they've given up on you.. they haven't invited me for years..
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Black Sheep
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Should I get babtized?
by BlackWolf ini know this sounds like a ridiculous question but i was talking with my mom in the car today and of course we got on the topic of getting babtized again.
she told me that jehovah holds me accountable for my sins regardless of wether i am babtized or not so i have no reason to be holding back because it won't change anything.
my parents are the type of super strict jw who will shun you just for not being a witness.
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Black Sheep
Not getting baptized was the best thing I ever did. Because of that, my parents still had a relationship with me into their old age. Something they would not have had if they had been guilted into shunning me if I had been DA or DF. A dysfunctional relationship for sure, but that was better than none, as much for them as for me. -
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inquiring mind has 3 questions
by OutsiderLookingIn injust a few questions from a newbie.
answer one or as many as you want.
1. why cleaners?
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Black Sheep
"2/3 leave?" is from a survey by the Pew Research Center. One question asked was something along the lines of, "Do you still belong to the church you were raised in?" The survey has been discussed here and a search should find it.
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Don't know what to do
by looter ini'm in a crazy situation.
about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.
it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.
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Black Sheep
...and don't ask your dad about things that bother you.
Ask him question about things that will bother him.